Saturday, October 28, 2017

Vet Visit: Annie and Spud

Spud was a cheap date for the vet.
Teeth needed minor floating and he
had a little bean removed.
Almost two weeks ago Annie and Spud visited the Vet. I have blogged on here before about how my area lacks large animal vets and how a clinic from down south comes up twice a year for annual appointments. The "Travelling Vets" (I hesitate to call them Mobile Vets, simply because they do not have a lot of mobile equipment and are not known for being mobile other than coming up this way twice a year). Long time readers will recall just how expensive these visits are - usual prices for 2 dentals and 2 vaccines run an average of $700.

The costs associated with simple and routine procedures has been a difficult pill to swallow - especially since I own multiple horses. So being the frugal person I am, I did some investigating and ended up hearing through word of mouth of another vet practice - an actual Mobile Vet practice - that was coming up to the area. Since I assume she didn't want to impede on the Travelling Vets "stomping grounds", she set up her mobile practice a few towns away - give or take 3 hours (where the annual BVX is held).

No pictures from that day because it was cold as hell and dark.
Long story short - the price point was more than fair and even calculating in gas, food, and overnight accommodations we'd be coming out ahead. (Which is fucking insane).

Friday afternoon I left work early to get my things ready and N and I rolled out of town just after 3pm. We made good time, despite having to stop several times for N to run some errands.

When we arrived at the grounds, we tacked up and rode - because why not? The horses were good - Annie was a bit skittery heading over to the darkening rings and we ended up just moseying to the warm up arena that had a few jumps in it. I didn't do too much, as the ground was already hard from the cool temperatures and frost.

Annie was pretty amicable until we dealt with the canter again and as expected, got wound up tighter than a spring and started to try and jump into the canter at all costs. I ignored her and kept asking her to trot and I feel like we ended on a pretty good note. The kicking out/bucking and head tossing was still evident during our trot - canter transitions and although I was feeling kind of frustrated, I just rolled with it.

We did lots of transitions and while I am having trouble remembering the exact details of the ride, I just remember it felt incredibly messy. I tried to emulate a lot of the things Anthony had mentioned in our ride the week before but I couldn't seem to garner the same results. Regardless, we did have some good successes and I was happy that she was being mostly good with schooling around a pitch-black ring with no real riding beforehand.

We also jumped the jumps that had been set up in the arena. So, that was fun.

Small victories.

Trot poles, just what the Dr (err Vet) ordered.
After riding, we wandered the grounds in the pitch black which caused for some spooks from both horses. Hilariously enough, as we wandered by one set of bathrooms, an automatic light turned on and N spooked harder than the horses did. I made sure to poke fun at her for that.

We set up the horses in their stalls and Annie was an absolute nut - pacing against the walls, snorting, shaking her head, etc. I was a bit concerned to leave them, as we would be leaving to go to a hotel for the night. Thankfully, as we finished up giving them water and food, she seemed to settle. It was clear she was pretty stressed out though.

The next morning, everyone was still in their stalls when we arrived - which was good. Annie ate all of her dinner, and breakfast, and lunch... I had packed two hay nets to the brim with hay and they had more than enough food for two days. Annie ate nearly 3/4 of a 60lb bale overnight. Good lord. Which, I guess it's better to eat than develop ulcers?

The Vet was pretty thorough in her examination - I explained what kind of issues we were having undersaddle and even showed her a bunch of videos displaying the behavior. We talked a lot about young horses and how they develop when they become riding horses and then went over Annie's conformation and how things may or may not affect her.

Waking up from her float
Her teeth only needed minor adjustments.
I gave the Vet as much information as possible: that we had been riding in a dressage saddle that was not a good fit for her and have since chucked it, she has developed a hunters bump, that she may have ulcers or an ovarian cyst and that she has had issues with her leads/cross firing.

The Vet took all of this info and palpated and prodded my mare before simply stating that the "hunters bump" I had been seeing develop was actually that and more - inflammation and swelling. And upon palpation, Annie reacted immediately and quite angrily, which was to be expected. The Vet told me that it could be from the saddle fit, or it could also be from the fact her topline is very weak (which is apparently a super common thing in young horses) - she opted to put her money on the latter. She also commented on Annie's very weak/small loin area and said that this could attribute to the lack of topline. Interestingly enough, she also stated she thought part of this "problem" was also "Teenager Syndrome" - which of course, is impossible to diagnose, but important to note.

Post lunging, you can see the bump pretty clearly here

And looking back in my notes, it kind of ties into what Amanda, the body worker, had said about Annie being incredibly "slow developing". 

With Annie's topline, there are two "open" pockets where muscle has yet to develop. The fact she hasn't developed anything isn't necessarily to do with my riding. It can stem from multiple things - nutrition, the horse's conformation, activity level, age, etc.Some horses have weak toplines their entire life due to their physical attributes. In Annie's case, the Vet thinks bumping up her alfalfa intake (from 3lbs per day to 5-6lbs) and adding a muscle building supplement will help in expanding these muscles and help them become more prominent in her back.

Those photo shows those "hollow spots" really well.
Because without these muscles, her spine is literally the only "load bearing zone" for the saddle. Any concussion or rubs or whatever will transfer directly to her spinal column vs fat/muscle that is built on either side to disperse the saddle's weight.

The Vet went on to explain more of the mechanics of the horse and how we as a rider may "misalign" them just from our riding. She explained it is important to keep riding Annie and stretching her out and getting those muscles to bulk up, especially while she is on the supplement. (She told me that it's like putting a body-builder on supplements - you have to work those muscles to make them grow). I told her I would do my best, but with the impeding winter and lack of light, I might just have to abandon riding regularly until next year. The Vet understood this and said if I can lunge her a few times a week over poles, it would help and that regardless, the product will help her build muscle although it may be slower if I am unable to exercise her regularly.

The granules are super neat.
The product itself is called Equitop Myoplast - it's kind of cool to look at and I found myself intrigued by the fact it isn't a powder. Without doing some form of copy/paste from the website, the supplement features a wide array of amino acids which are critical for the growth and development of a young horse, or horse in intense work. Essentially, if a young horse is missing a critical amino acid (which in turn is the building block for muscle development), their performance and/or body strength may suffer.

The granules are sugar/molasses coated for palatability and inside is a form of algae which somehow hosts the amino acids. Don't ask me how it works because I haven't a clue.

I hesitated to post this blog entry without some kind of "before and after" shot, so I managed to get one from a few days ago for comparisons sake.

Just shy of two weeks.
* Her topline is so much more even, the "hunters bump" is less inflamed than
the original pictures and it has "evened out". Her withers are less prominent*
Another shot - you can see how much wider
her back surface is becoming. 
We next discussed ulcers and the possibility of an ovarian cyst. The Vet asked me a ton of questions - about her diet, exercise, stress levels, heat cycles, etc. With my answers, the Vet didn't feel it necessary to pursue ulcers or cysts, especially not with this giant goose-egg on my horse's back staring us in the face.

I feel pretty confident with the diagnosis - I was sent home with a tub of the muscle supplements and previcox for the swelling - and have only been able to really lunge Annie since we've been back. She has been pretty good on the line and I've introduced some 2x4 poles (because I don't have trot poles #redneck) and have been able to hack her out once. The weather is terrible and the ground is saturated from a freak rainstorm we had, so we won't be able to do anything too crazy for the next week or so.

In the meantime, she is just moseying around the pasture and has a chiropractic appointment for the end of the month to see if it will aid in "speeding up" the healing time for her spine. I do feel kind of bad that I continued to push her, or that I didn't really consider her lack of topline as a huge issue. I mean, the Vet did state that it wasn't really anything I did (except maybe put a bad saddle on her) that caused the issue. I guess it's a pretty common thing in young horses and "growing pains" are just a part of the equation.

Post-lunging.
We've had to take a break from lunging due to the saturated ground
from all the flooding we had last week. Ick.
Part of me is glad it isn't a "serious" issue, but part of me is upset that I didn't really "see" it. I feel pretty shitty about the whole thing - she is my first "baby" horse and I feel like I'm making so many mistakes with her...

Now before I cry again, who else has a young horse that has been slow to develop physically? What did you do to see an improvement?

And....

What did you do for your horse that lacked a topline? What supplements did you use (if any)? Did you notice a difference? What age do you truly believe your horse was filled out/finished growing?

32 comments:

  1. I'm interested to see how the Equitop Myoplast works out for you! My vet carries it and I've been told it's really good from a few other sources too.

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    1. She is on it for 45 more days, so I'll do another update when we finish the container :)

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  2. Our ulcery TB, 14, was on the myoplast at one of our vets recommendation when we were trying to get some weight on him/muscle him up, and didn't notice that dramatic a difference!

    Our newest vet switched us to Galozyme and I think it's made the biggest difference in all the tweaks we've made to his feeding regime. It's made an amazing difference to his body, coat - we were battling some kind of long-term fungal issue - and we like that it's supposed to help his gut.

    (He gets free choice hay and 1/2 lb Cadence Ultra with a dash of MSM or camelina oil daily. He also gets beet pulp several times a week and a total of 4 cups (soaked) alfalfa pellets before/after workouts.)

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    1. I am a big believer that not everything works for everyone and their horse. I'm glad you found something that works for you guys! I'd love to see before/after pictures!

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    2. Oh - I should add. Annie is on free-choice hay as well. In addition to that, she receives is given 5-8lbs alfalfa, 1/4 cup Dr Reeds minerals, 1 scoop Myoplast, 2 cups oil, and 2 tbs magnesium.

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  3. that supplement is really interesting to me. I wonder if it could help Irish. Is it expensive?

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    1. I'll continue to do updates as we go through the container since I've had quite a few people interested in it.

      Through my vet, I paid $90. The container I purchased lasts 60 days, so it's about $1.50 a day. Which isn't great, but this supplement isn't supposed to be fed continuously. The horse is supposed to be removed from the supplement once they have reached a desirable weight/muscle mass, so as a short-term supplement for a solution to poor topline, it might be a good option. At least, that is how the supplement was explained to me.

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  4. I used to use Myoplast but switched to just using Spirulina (which is the algae) because I'm getting the same results at a fraction of the price.

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  5. Pig struggled hard to build muscle, especially as the dressage work got harder and demanded more muscle from him. I put him on a ration balancer for the protein content, and had excellent results. Extra protein can make them a little hotter sometimes, as it's extra energy for the body, but it was worth it for us.

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    1. Good to know! I've heard good things about RB's - it's a shame we don't have anyone who carries anything like that up here tho :(

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  6. Myoplast is awesome! I've known two horses that were on it and it helped them tremendously.

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    1. So cool!! I've never heard of it before, so it's good to know others have experienced good results!!

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  7. Best of luck with the supplement! It's great that you found an alternate vet too! I know I've said it before but I totally get how stressful (and expensive) the non local vet situation is.

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    1. Ugh - it can be a real big shock for the pocket book. I know that a few vets from PG want to come up this way, but are avoiding it because this area has kinda been deemed as Vet C's "stomping grounds".

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  8. That algae stuff looks really cool. Levi needs a lot of help with his toppling so I'll have to check it out.

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    1. I've seen instant results! It may not work for every horse, but it might be something to consider. :) I'll keep updating on it too, so everyone can see where we "end up".

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  9. My Tess is a horse that has been a late bloomer, both mentally and physically - she is only now just coming into herself at 7. Patience, a lot of groundwork, and lots of affirmation seems to be working well for us :)

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    1. Interesting!! I've been hearing a lot about horses who have been late bloomers.

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  10. sounds like a really useful appointment with a lot of great takeaways! good luck getting the right balance of nutritional supplements and physical muscle building. topline was a constant struggle with isabel in particular, as she was tricky to really get working over her back as opposed to hollowing out. long lining at the walk was a good exercise that i could do with her from the ground even when footing was dicey.

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    1. I actually was curious what you did with Isabel - as I remember your struggles to get that topline!! And yes, we've been doing lots of long-lining, lunging, etc at the walk and encouraging her to stretch down.

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  11. I have kept Ashke on lysine for four years. Every time I take him off I see a loss of muscle, so we don't mess with it any more.I was doing just lysine, but have since moved to the triple amino acid from Smartpak (easier). He also gets four flakes of alfalfa a day, plus two of grass. He looks like a little beefcake and all of his lameness issues have miraculously vanished.

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    1. Glad you have found something that is working well for you guys!

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  12. Interesting info! Emi is currently having some low back soreness. The chiropractor (also my vet) adjusted her about a month ago and I just had her saddle adjusted. The saddle fitter (also a vet) could still appreciate the muscle soreness and did not think it was directly related to the saddle. My vet comes back for a re-check this week so I'm curious to see what we find. It's definitely frustrating and I feel the same way wondering if I'm doing something wrong with her. She is on purina super sport which is supposed to support healthy muscles.

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    1. Interesting to know!!

      I think horses do things to themselves in the fields more than they do undersaddle - slipping and sliding around in wet grass is a recipe for disaster! Ugh.

      I'd be interested to know your vets findings tho!

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  13. First of all, I'm glad you found the more affordable vet! My horse, Miss Tea had a very long, weak back and I had a lot of trouble with her. What helped was a lot of lunging at canter and over poles as well as riding long and low, lateral work and bending to get as many different muscles built up as possible. Her problem unfortunately was conformation. When I had her in work and all the muscles strengthened she was okay but Canadian winters do not allow for keeping a horse in work unless you have your own arena. As for my young horse Shiraz, she has been a slow developer both mentally and physically and so her training was put off until these last few months (she is 4 and a half now). She has serious teenager syndrome though so all I can do for that is keep working on exposing her to all the things and developing 'work ethic' which the trainer recently installed (she worked her HARD and installed a serious 'yes mam'). Good luck!

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    1. I'm glad too!
      We've been incorporating a lot of long and low into our work regime and inside and outside bending.

      Glad you have found something that is working for you both!

      And I am glad I'm not the only one dealing with "teenager syndrome" lol. I am actually sending Annie off for training early next year so the hope is to instill a more serious 'yes ma'am' attitude and refine a few things :)

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  14. We use Myoplast on our runners and as it's been noted, on some horses it's worked great and others there has been little results. It always makes me curious if there is an underlying reason 'why' but regardless it looks like Annie is responding well to it!!

    Kidd has been a slew of problems and I feel like I've been the root of all of them, so don't beat yourself up too bad - that's why we're amateurs!

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    1. Ya! I remember you telling me about that. Interesting that it works for some but not others - the science geek in me wonders why!

      Ugh, I hear ya. #adultammysforlyfe

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  15. Grif and I just took time. Lots of work over poles and on the lunge line in the beginning helped, too. He has always been very vocal about what is "too much" in a workout so it really helped me gauge his training pace better. In the early days, we also did a lot of trail riding over very varied terrain. That helped build his body better than anything else, I think.

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